Built Between Bedtimes

Built Between Bedtimes is a podcast for ambitious dads building businesses, families, and meaningful lives — often after the kids are asleep.

Hosted by real estate entrepreneurs and fathers in the trenches, this show dives into the real conversations behind entrepreneurship, fatherhood, marriage, and personal growth.

We talk about:

  • Building real estate portfolios
  • Balancing business and family life
  • The wins, struggles, and lessons of fatherhood
  • What it takes to create freedom and legacy

These are the conversations that happen after bedtime — when the real work begins.

If you're a dad trying to build something meaningful while raising a family, this podcast is for you.

Episodes

42 minutes ago

36 min

In this episode, Dylan is back from the Mandane Conference, where maroon blazers, vocal improv, Pokémon card economics, and a presentation on Rama Capital somehow all make sense together. Chris then tells the story of hitting a hole-in-one at Shortland — on the same round his buddy hit one too. Then things turn to AI: Dylan has been testing Instinct, an AI agent that can log into business platforms, update payroll, onboard employees, and handle tasks from a simple text message. Finally, Rob breaks down a property management nightmare that turned a clogged toilet into more than $5,000 in invoices — and why every rental property owner should take another look at the repair authorization language in their management agreement.

42 minutes ago

36 min

7 days ago

37 min

In this episode, Chris and Rob go deep on the All-In Podcast's conversation with Jensen Huang — NVIDIA founder, OSU alum, Aloha High grad — and what he said about AI doom and gloom, the Industrial Revolution, and why America needs to lead the charge. Then things get weird: AI models are apparently breaking containment, hacking companies, and leaving hidden files with instructions for future breaches. Rob also discovers Thine — a $67 lifetime app that records everything your phone hears — right after Limitless got killed by Facebook. Then it's back to real estate: why the $1M–$3M price band is completely frozen, why the sub-$400K buyer is still moving, and why Chris thinks anyone doing a $900K flip in this market needs to seriously reconsider their numbers heading into 2027.

7 days ago

37 min

Oct 1, 2026

33 min

In this episode, Chris is back from three weeks of back-to-back travel — Caldera Springs, Dave Matthews at the Gorge where he and Sam first met, and a hundred-degree humidity bomb in Texas and Oklahoma — and somehow came home without a single argument. The secret? A house manager who shows up once a week, handles everything, and completely eliminated the pre-trip stress spiral. Then the big news: Rama Capital officially closed on the Palladian, the 20-unit deal that Pia first underwrote on January 28th — nine months from first look to close. And Rob's Salem flip is sitting on market, priced right but waiting on buyers, while the Tigard new build just got plans back from the architect and is heading for permit.

Oct 1, 2026

33 min

Sep 25, 2026

36 min

In this episode, Chris’s morning starts with a daycare call — Carter threw up on Tanner, which is somehow better than throwing up on a stranger’s kid. Rob follows it up with the story of Uncle Nick, a dead rat, and the shoe incident that started it all. Then the conversation turns to business. Dylan walks Rob through founder-led sales — from cold calls and CRM systems to using AI for coaching and improving the sales process. But the biggest question comes when Rob says out loud what he’s been quietly thinking: with Rama Capital growing, flips running, and plenty already on his plate, should he even be building HireFlow right now? Parenting chaos, business systems, and the constant question every entrepreneur faces — what’s actually worth your time?

Sep 25, 2026

36 min

Sep 18, 2026

32 min

In this episode, Rob drops Max off at Lewis and Clark on a Friday morning and comes home to an empty house for the first time in 18 years. She's already texting from the dunes. Chris breaks down the AI-powered underwriting tool Pia built that's pulling MLS listings every morning, running back-of-napkin numbers, and sending personalized deal reports to investor clients before they've had coffee — a value-add no other buyer's agent in Portland is offering right now. And Rob's Salem flip is finally photo-ready: grass dead, contractor stalled, $4,800 in sod later, the house looks the way it should have looked two months ago. On market next week.

Sep 18, 2026

32 min

Sep 10, 2026

22 min

In this episode, Dylan is flying solo tonight — Erica's at a Whitney show at Topaz Farms, grandma's coming over for baby training, and he's trying to figure out how to stop answering his Philippine VA's messages at 2 AM. The guys dig into one of the weirder new-parent negotiations: how much grandparent time is actually the right amount. Rob's daughter Max is days away from moving into Lewis and Clark — twenty minutes away, same-room living, communal bathrooms — and just now fully processing what sharing a room actually means. And Rama Capital is almost there: six LOIs out, a Delaware LLC, an operating agreement, and a close that's been five months in the making sitting right around the corner.

Sep 10, 2026

22 min

Sep 4, 2026

39 min

In this episode, the guys smuggle a cantaloupe into a theater, Rob gets the boys into swimming lessons, and then things take a turn. Rob opens up about losing $110,000 in a gator lending scheme — transactional lending in Indiana that looked legit, had a spreadsheet, had a track record, had urgency built into every deal, and then disappeared to Mexico eight months in. Then comes the bonus story: the second operator who cussed him out on a group thread for asking too many questions, banned him from future deals, and then — two months later — got investigated for something significantly darker. The lesson? Vet the person, not the spreadsheet. Background checks exist for a reason.

Sep 4, 2026

39 min

Sep 3, 2026

32 min

In this episode, Chris and Rob pick up where they left off — with Tim Ferriss, the Four-Hour Work Week, and what it actually looks like to stop being the bottleneck in your own business. Chris's wife is already on board with moving the family to a community in Costa Rica — think communal dinners, international neighbors, kids learning in the world instead of a classroom. The time zone math checks out: Portland is one hour ahead. The mosquito situation is still unresolved. Rob breaks down the practical steps he's taking from the book right now: cutting email to twice a day, handing off responses, and designing the business so it runs while he sleeps. The goal isn't retirement. It's optionality. And Chris is being held publicly accountable to picking a date.

Sep 3, 2026

32 min

Aug 28, 2026

27 min

In this episode, Rob's daughter Max is 20 days from moving into Lewis and Clark — only child, never shared a room, roommate from California who's also in a band. It's happening fast. Then Rob gives a full rundown on how he's using Claude Cowork to manage three flips simultaneously — tracking vendor communications, job costing, and construction timelines across a master folder that cross-references itself. He also admits to handing a contractor his credit card for Lowe's runs, which nobody around him thought was a good idea. And the biggest insight from his book stack this year: he's been talking too much in team meetings, not listening enough, and the one time he reversed that — asking questions and staying quiet — his team surfaced problems he didn't even know existed.

Aug 28, 2026

27 min

Aug 27, 2026

41 min

In this episode, the guys do something they've been putting off — they talk about the failures. Chris opens up about his biggest: a 65-unit motel conversion in Reno, a $100K earnest money wire, a 60-day DD window he should have fought for, and a $6 million raise he never had a shot at pulling off alone. He missed the qualified opportunity zone deadline by one day, paid six figures in capital gains, and walked away with $25K in sunk costs and a lesson that eventually led him to Dylan and the Rama Capital model. Dylan follows with his own: leaving a six-figure tech career, starting Seneca with no salary,putting a strain on his marriage, and not paying himself for over a year while the business quietly scaled to $45K a month. Two very different failure stories. Both completely worth hearing.

Aug 27, 2026

41 min

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